mock-possum 2 days ago

> The biggest benefit of JPEG XL would be the ability to combine the preview file, a traditional JPEG, with the RAW into a single file. The concept of “JPEG+RAW” would be obsolete, as a single JPEG XL can do both.

> Another aspect of the format that will appeal to photographers is that it’s got outstanding compression. “The difference between JPEG XL and the old JPEG is, well, I would say 50% at least, that you can reduce [the size of the file and get] the same quality,”

Hype.

  • klysm a day ago

    Yeah this is dumb. The DNG spec handles this fine

  • TacticalCoder 2 days ago

    > Hype.

    What do you mean hype? There's actually a 100% chance JPEG-XL is giving a smaller file than JPEG.

    JPEG XL can compress, losslessly, a JPG file to a smaller file.

    That .jxl can then be decompressed, bit-for-bit, to the original .jpg file (it's not just lossless in the way pixels are encoded: the resulting file can be bit-for-bit decompressed to the original .jpg file)

    Gains range, every single time, from 10% to 30%.

    Example here:

        .. $  ls -l a.jpg && shasum a.jpg
        ... 615504 ...  a.jpg
        716744d950ecf9e5757c565041143775a810e10f  a.jpg
     
        .. $  cjxl a.jpg a.jxl
        Read JPEG image with 615504 bytes.
        Compressed to 537339 bytes including container
    
        .. $  ls -l a.jxl
        -rw-r--r-- 1 e e 537339 Jul 30 21:22 a.jxl
    
        .. $  djxl a.jxl b.jpg
        Read 537339 compressed bytes.
        Reconstructed to JPEG.
    
        .. $  ls -l b.jpg && shasum b.jpg
        ... 615504 ... b.jpg
        716744d950ecf9e5757c565041143775a810e10f  b.jpg
    • duskwuff 2 days ago

      >> Hype.

      > What do you mean hype? There's actually a 100% chance JPEG-XL is giving a smaller file than JPEG.

      As a one-word statement, it's a colloquial expression of excitement. OP isn't doubting that JPEG-XL is an improvement over JPEG; they're looking forward to it.

      • karim79 2 days ago

        I think it is a great format, I can't wait to see how and if it proliferates.

        At the same time, looking at Google Trends (just now) reveals that on a global level, in terms of worldwide searches - and in the last 12 months, searches for JPEG XL peaked at around 100, in a single day (sometime in September of last year).

        That is a horrendously low amount of interest. Without a concerted effort in education (or re-education) it would appear that it doesn't matter even a tiny bit how much better this format is. To put it politely, almost nobody gives a shit.

        Disclaimer: it is my favourite format.

yeah879846 2 days ago

I don't care about lossy compression.